Anyone know if London Bethel was represented?
Um, think we all know the answer to this one already... come on someone, prove me wrong, shock me, tell me I'm wrong and that they did send a rep from the org........ I would be very surprised.
i've just been watching the 6pm bbc news, where there was an interesting clip to do with the current war.. if i've remembered it right, the british prime minister (tony blair) stated:.
"earlier today i had a meeting with all britain's religions...".
anyone know if london bethel was represented?.
Anyone know if London Bethel was represented?
Um, think we all know the answer to this one already... come on someone, prove me wrong, shock me, tell me I'm wrong and that they did send a rep from the org........ I would be very surprised.
interesting article in todays guardian (under the jehovahs witnesses link to un queried article).
thought this made for very interesting reading too..... till i reached the end...... ______________________________________________________________________a whitehall think tank is recommending that religion is abolished as the basis for charity tax concessions - just as home secretary david blunkett seeks a new, stronger definition of religion as part of his drive to outlaw incitement to racial hatred.. but mr blunketts advisers are unaware of the conclusions of the performance and innovation unit (piu), a cabinet office think tank headed by geoff mulgan, who is also the prime ministerss special adviser on strategy.
its report on charities is sponsored by another close colleague of thee prime minister, lady morgan, formerly one of his political secretaries.. the piu is set to recommend that charitable status is only accorded organisations that meet a test of public benefit.
Interesting article in todays Guardian (under the ‘Jehovah’s Witnesses link to UN queried’ article)
Thought this made for very interesting reading too..... till I reached the end.....
______________________________________________________________________A Whitehall think tank is recommending that religion is abolished as the basis for charity tax concessions - just as home secretary David Blunkett seeks a new, stronger definition of religion as part of his drive to outlaw incitement to racial hatred.
But Mr Blunkett’s advisers are unaware of the conclusions of the performance and innovation unit (PIU), a Cabinet Office think tank headed by Geoff Mulgan, who is also the prime ministers’s special adviser on strategy. Its report on charities is sponsored by another close colleague of thee prime minister, Lady Morgan, formerly one of his political secretaries.
The PIU is set to recommend that charitable status is only accorded organisations that meet a test of ‘public benefit’. In future a charity would have to deliver benefits to the community at large not just people associated with it.
Charity law is mainly case law resting on three headings: education, religion and community good. Because of ambiguities in defining what constitutes religious observance, the charities commission has been forced into embarrassing discrimination between such groups as white witches and Odin worshippers and more mainstream faiths.
It is understood that the team of civil servants and voluntary sector experts considering how to change the low would not make their new definition retrospective. Groups that have gained charity status as religious bodies, which include the Church of England as well as Islamic and other non-Christian denominations, would not be affected. Any new religious organisations, Christian or otherwise, would have to pass the public benefit test before they qualified for tax concessions........
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damn, who made that stupid rule up....... and it was all going so well in the article up to that point. Seems a bit stupid to me that they are willing to overlook misleading charities that are already set up and are only targeting the new ones. Doesn’t make much sense. The Watchtower being a registered charity is one of the most dishonest things I have come across in the org - how can they call themselves a charity - in what way do they benefit the public? Answers on a postcard please....... I’m not expecting many postcards......
following the link given by kent,.
i have several observation to make:.
(from the link : http://www.un.org/moreinfo/ngolink/brochure.htm).
nelly, now its 12,700
Just a quick question - this may have already been covered, if so, bear with me!
Does the press or media know about all of this? Are they aware of what is going on and the implications of it? It strikes me that such a revelation about the society would make good reading - it would definitely be a good, effective way of getting the information out there. Have the press been approached?
...no longer feeling the dread of being approved by man (wtbts), only jesus.... (keep it going!
*smile*)
... being able to make your own decisions without having to refer to back issues of the Watchtower and Awake...
... not being held to ransom with the threat of the G.Trib and Armageddon...
... not trying to turn every conversation with a 'wordly person' into an excuse to give them magazines...
... reading what you want, when you want, where you want, just because you want to, not because you've been told to in a schedule...
thats what sky news says at 5.
40 gmt.
http://www.sky.com/skynews/home.
and now its Kandahar.... attacking all the military installations.
thats what sky news says at 5.
40 gmt.
http://www.sky.com/skynews/home.
and now it's Jalalabad as well.....
ok... i want to try to read the bible from cover to cover.
what are anyone's recommendations for an unbiased,easy to read translation.
i read on another site that the nwt is flawed.
FreeFallin - have a look in the Bible Research forum here on this board and you will find a couple of threads started by Kat called 'Which Bible to Get' - think they will be very relevant.
Hi Legate
Nice to meet you here.
Bore us with too many details?? Nah, not us! I know what you mean about work and university and time.... I always seem to be watching the clock these days - it's hard to fit everything in isn't it (especially with my 3 kids as well!) Still, I feel it is SO important to make time to come here, it is the only place I can go where people understand the problems associated with leaving the org, it has been invaluable to me and also serves as a constant encouragement. My heart literally leaps everytime I see a newbie here, it is such an achievement for someone to walk away.
I can also understand what you say about losing your supply of friends, when I left the JWs I had no friends at all in the 'world'. It was a very lonely place for a time until I got myself sorted out with college and volunteer work, the friends I have now are unconditional friends, they aren't my friends just because I belong to the same belief system.
I would especially like to get in touch with anyone in their 20's. No offence intended but it is good to know few people your own age.
about a week after the september 11th thing when i was feeling devastated and in total despair, i went through an "i give up" phase.. i came out of that phase (or thought i did) with a new gung ho, i ain't gonna take no crap concept of myself.
you probably saw my post about marshall arts.
this was gonna all be part of this new tough, ready to fight, kind of guy.. well, i'm not tough.
Well, I'm not tough. I don't like fighting. I can't take a punch well, physically or verbally. The more I try to act tough, the sillier I look and the more desperate I become since I know absolutely nothing about being tough. Its just not me.
((((Joel))))) Just be yourself - you are a wonderful person, you don't need to change - we appreciate you for who you are, somehow a tough Joelbear doesnt sound quite right!
silly question really.... did you ever read anything in the societies publications that really made you angry??
i mean, the sort of angry that makes you throw the mag across the room or even the sort of angry that makes you never go to another meeting again?.
quotes from publications that made me angry - .
Two more gems for you..... can you believe the second one?!?!!? Unbelievable!
** w98 8/1 5 At Last-Justice for All ***
Jehovah's Witnesses strive to subdue prejudice, partiality, racism, and violence.
*** w99 10/1 9 "For Everything There Is an Appointed Time" ***
20 Should even married couples occasionally "keep away from embracing"? Evidently so in a sense, for Paul noted: "This I say, brothers, the time left is reduced. Henceforth let those who have wives be as though they had none." (1 Corinthians 7:29)